Flow Orchestra: How AI is giving you your time back

Want more time in your day? Brady Lewis and Zach Crain reveal their groundbreaking AI flow-building tool that’s changing the game for productivity.

Originally built for their own use, Flow Orchestra automates tasks like blog writing, social media posts, and eBook generation through structured AI-driven workflows. Designed for both beginners and power users, it offers pre-built templates, advanced customization, and upcoming integrations for social media automation and analytics. While AI speeds up the process, human oversight ensures quality. A must-listen for anyone looking to scale their work efficiently. 
Learn more at https://www.floworchestra.com/

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hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the AI Rebels podcast today we have Brady and Zach from Flow Orchestra Brady has been with us before for another one of their ventures Game Dot AI and they're here to talk about a new product a new initiative that they're pursuing really glad to have you have you guys back on thanks for having us back appreciate it yeah thank you very much yeah definitely I'm excited to have the two of you on this time I'm curious yeah me too Zach always makes me do do them by myself so I know I usually throw them in there and I just leave but you know today exactly it would be nice to join too yeah this is great well I'm I'm super interested in your guys's story like the two of you how did you end up both specifically with game but also just like the two of you how did you you get here pretty interesting Zack you go ahead and tell it since sure Brady and I met about I would say what two years ago now two and a half years ago I guess at this point yeah um and we actually met on a web 3 blockchain project uh that Brady was working on um and uh I was actually a holder in the project and so we just went back and forth um we realized quickly that we kind of ran in the same circles we worked in the same industry we talked the same language and so we just started working together more often and we were working on this specific project but we realized that we we you know wanted to kind of break off and and do our own thing and so we had talked about it extensively and you know one day we decided to join forces and and go do that so um we kind of broke free from that started game that's when we first released a built our Game Dot AI app which you can find on Apple Store Google Play Store all of that that did very well we kind of started our brand from there but then we and moved on to a book um as you can see behind me we've got this AI for newbies book award winning book but that yeah just to kind of help again bridge the gap between you know new people entering the AI space and introducing them both to a I as a as a general field as well as our app specifically so we wanted to use the book to educate and also teach people how to use tools um and and so we we we kind of spread that out and and what we realized is that um you know we um we had built something very powerful however we uh were also building um something in the background to help us run these brands run game AI run game network things like that and that was something we were using internally to help us with you know content creation marketing purposes organization ops and things like that we then soon realised that what we were using for ourselves to run our business is actually uh the product we should be offering to everyone else because we just realised wow this is incredibly valuable to what we're doing so it's gonna be valuable to other people so we shifted our focus towards what we're now calling Flow Orchestra and so we took the product that we were using in the back end and we're packaging it up and so then we can now present it to the public um and get people access to it as well so they can start creating work flows I'll let you know Brady give you kind of the definition of of what Flow Orchestra is but yeah that's kind of the the overall rundown so Brady and I have known each other for a while um we've been bouncing around uh kind of a little bit back and forth between few different things trying to figure out um you know our uh the the product that we should be offering and uh we we found it so now we're kind of sticking our uh flag in the ground and we're gonna be moving forward and we're getting towards the end of of development so um we're looking forward in the probably the next couple weeks or so starting to introduce people get more people in we've got the wait list happening now so those people will get access first um but yeah that was a long version of how kind of Brady and I got started it's you know that's awesome that story but we'll just leave it at that that's awesome yeah and we've never met in person either we've never met in person no really yeah I'm in I'm in Georgia Brady's in Indiana and so we've uh two years established this relationship this way and we've you know built trust and and all that and um it's just work for us so we hope awesome one day you know we'll kind of take our you know meet halfway maybe or I'll drive up to indie something like that but um but in the meantime this is this is working for us so we're was the Big Ten SCC rivalry ever a wedge in your relationship yes yeah Indiana we were talking about this Notre Dame just took us both out this year so yes so one after the other you guys can bond that's why I had to ask yeah right I know yes or so I love that anyways yeah Brady I would love to hear what Flow Orchestra is on a more granular level here sure so as we were just talking about a lot of times some of the stuff we work on just comes out of a need and with AI I think one of the best things about AI is it's repetiveness or once you can teach it to do something it can do it over and over again which is great you don't want to write a blog post 25 times when AI can do it for you and a minute or whatever we started thinking about some of the things that like the pieces of content that are valuable like ebooks or anything that's more than just a single shot at a prompt at AI and we started getting more getting a higher quality prompts and stacking prompts and and figuring out how you know if you ask this and then follow up with this and then ask it to do this based on those first two things and when you start massaging it with chain of thought prompts and all these things you just the quality of the output just magnificently rises and so with the combination of getting more and more into where when we want to produce something of quality we needed to go through this process of like 10 prompts or whatever and then have to do that every time so eventually first I was like alright well let me build something to where I can just do these prompt stacks and not have to do it one by one manually every time then so once I got that part figured out then it came to the alright well let's see how we can make this automatically repetitive to where it's autonomously handling everything on its own yeah so we kind of built what was the stacks into flows to where we started adding more functionality like being able to loop through things and and conditional statements within and saving to you know this area of the app so that you could then post it to your blog or whatever and so that's kind of just how everything evolved into what it is now to where we have this fully packed in system that can do all kinds of things like we it's it's user friendly for new people but it's also developer friendly like the flows that we've created for our own stuff are like like 100 steps and they're just doing all kinds of things and they're producing high quality ebooks like full ebooks all on its own where all I had to do was give it my topic and from there it goes through the steps of determining the audience determining the best marketing angles determining you know what is missing in the market for that that this book should cover and then starts going through writing the outline then it will write the first draft of the first chapter and all this stuff and then it will critique it and then we'll take the critique and do another version that's the final version all this stuff and it can do it will look through like a chapter and create an image prompt based on that chapter and then the image generator will come in and generate the image based on the prompt and so at the end you have a complete product that took you 15 seconds and just coming up with a topic and hitting go and then it takes it from there and formats it into an ebook and all this stuff and so those are the kinds of things that we envision using flow for I think the majority of people won't get that deep into it but it's extremely handy for tasks that like maybe have five to 10 steps that you have to manually do on your own each time you can throw it into a a prompt stack or a flow and save it and then you can come in and re run it whenever you want without changing anything you can change just the topic and re run it again yeah to get completely different output so really we're moving into the stuff where I think people are quickly seeing that just a 1 prompt to chat GPT isn't going to you know generate the type of quality material that if you're serious about it that you're gonna want so we kind of moved into making it easier for regular people to do these prompt stacking kind of things in a couple different ways so that's really what it's about Zach you you agree yeah yeah I was gonna add on and just because like Brady said I mean it's just an it's an overall workflow automation platform right and so it's got AI capabilities built into each different step of it so you essentially can customize workflows based on any of your needs any of your business processes so out of the gate many of the people that we've already talked to are gonna be using this more of like a creating managing and customizing when it comes to um like a content creation process people are gonna come to us and say uh you know they're small entrepreneurs solo entrepreneur uh small business team and they you know do they don't have the funds to go out and fund maybe a whole marketing department or go out and get a uh a content creator for their brand um they could come to someone like us I'll pay the the monthly uh fee build out their flows we'll we'll even help them build out their flows there's multiple ways you can build out flows I'll go over go over that here shortly but they would essentially be able to set up you know every day I need 3 social media posts every day I need a blog every month I need to write a press release and so you can schedule these things out and so as an entrepreneur they're always gonna be built and ready to go whenever you need them so you're not waking up every morning and having to be a content creator as well as an entrepreneur you've already set up all the flows you hit execute you schedule

so therefore they know every single day at 8: 11:13

00am twelve uh PM and three PM you need a post at twelve PM every day you need a blog things like that so this is just an ongoing way to to maintain maintain consistency with your content creation but also I mean you are essentially purchasing time as an entrepreneur time is the most important thing you have especially when you have low funds or don't have the resources to go out and build yeah expensive teams right so again that's where we we hop in and so you can essentially get the output of uh you know of having full marketing departments with a simple platform like ours and the great part is is that like Brady said anyone can use it whether you're an expert in the AI field you know we have the ability to start flows from scratch where you can just build step 1 step 2 you can build customize assistance for each step of the flow whatever you need or you can go and do and make your flows via Jason input um if that's more comfortable for you but we also have a pre built templates a lot of pre built templates very extensive detailed templates that if you are a newbie and you want to just come in you can essentially make a workflow um in seconds and then you can customize it to your own brand needs to your own personal needs your tone whatever you need and then from there on out now you have a consistent workflow that then runs whenever you need it at whatever time you need it and so on and so forth so and then the final way you can build a flow is we also have built a workflow assistant and that is if you were to go in as a user you didn't want to do a pre made flow you didn't see anything in there that you needed you don't have the skills to do it from Jason you don't want to build it from scratch you can go to the assistant workflow the workflow assistant and say hey I need a workflow to help me with X y Z could be I need an email series right and it will just go okay I'll build those steps for you I'll go build the steps hey according to what you need these are all pieces of the flow you'll need is it good yes no yes and then we can create the flow from that and then you customize it so there's many different ways but what we really wanted to do was make it as simple as possible for beginners but also yeah if you have the experience you can get as details with it as you as you need it as well so it's a very powerful system for both beginners and experts so if I were to build a flow with Jason say uh have you guys explored it all like having the AI assistant available and like you know context like that where I build a Jason flow and then I'm like hmm hey highlight these you know lines 9 through 14 AI assistant help me optimize this prompt is that a workflow that's that's in there as well those are very much the kind of things that we're putting the finishing touches on now like we don't know yeah we have the the nuts and bolts now so now we're trying to get all of these smaller instances of where we can use AI to make it super simple like that right so that's absolutely the kind of thing that we're adding in it it's it's like on the verge of that at this point in time but just a couple things that need to you know turn the corner across the finish line yeah I I asked just cause there's been a lot of studies recently about a lot of really encouraging studies recently about using AI as as a judge of its well of work and of its own work right um yeah so I I think that we're rapidly reaching like a point where uh and I've seen this in my own workflows already like the way that I prompt and the way that I optimize my prompts now I found that that AI has gotten really good at optimizing for itself yeah which in a way is a little bit spooky cause like dang like how do you like it requires some level of inferiority I think for the for LMS to be able to do this but yeah it's it's remarkable and it's going to be insane that the the knock on effects that we see of that for sure yeah and I completely agree everywhere else yeah and that's kind of the that was part of the emphasis for creating the flow idea is that we wanted to be able to like write this okay now look how bad this is you need to fix it do it better all right do it again come on make it better edit it make it better yeah all that right all that repetitive improvement yes I agree that's it's really good at doing that and it's it's almost like you're the you're tricking the AI like you're the one that just wrote this and the great and the great thing is is because we all know that in kind of the world we are currently in is everyone's forced to be a content creator if they want to get out there and spread awareness over their social networks and so not everyone has the time nor the skills to be a content creator right so they would come to Flow Orchestra and essentially they could build flows that would be their content creators for them and and so therefore they can then focus on other aspects of their business do you envision this potentially being able to integrate with social media platforms and automatically post things like that yeah absolutely that's like on our top 3 list to to get done we need to integrate we considered building it from scratch all of the functionality but at some point in time it's like alright we can't just build everything we can't just rebuild every app yeah that's ever existed and so we're looking into which third party option will be best to handle that and making sure that it's secure and that's amazing from a user front end perspective yeah I think from the first the first thing we will do will be integrate with like a make make.com to where you have access to 2 thousand some apps to integrate with and so I mean it's gonna be more than enough like we're gonna have to restrict right kind of things that you can do but absolutely yeah I I think that that's crucial to the app because yes it's awesome that you can create the content within the app but being able to push it where you need it to go that's another big part of the whole saving time saving effort portion of it yeah the whole idea I was talking oh I was cause yeah that's the that's certainly an exaggeration because I mean if you um and then ideally not only posting to the platforms but then um uh you know understanding the performance of posting to those platforms as well um is is is part of the the the future process where you post to socials you understand hey this one post that I posted on Monday morning got 1,000 views 10 likes and 5 shares the one I posted on Monday afternoon got 50 likes 10,000 views and 20 shares okay now we feed the flow system with that information and so now it knows hey we need to create more of the of the post that did you know performed better than the one yeah on the morning and so it's constantly learning evolving we're talking to the channels channels are talking back to us that's now building and and so it's just it's an it's an ongoing evolution of of of kind of you know creating the content for your brand and it's just the it's limitless really and so we're we're very excited because um once it can you know we get the posting to the channels then I mean it's essentially hands off almost yeah and that's just wild to think that um person coming in starting their own business could have this much content creation power with really not needing a whole lot of resources and so that's kind of that's the value right there that's wild yeah I was just talking my brother is a chiropractor out in Utah he just started his office a year ago yes and his problem is right he focuses one second he focuses on clients I need to get new clients puts his focus there and he starts to get more clients and then he obviously has to service those clients very hands on chiropractor so then his time goes to servicing these new clients and then some of those trickle off he's like okay shift focus back and he's like in this continual like seesaw of just like how do I just make like I just I wanna do chiropractor his thing is like I just wanna do chiropractic that's why I got into this so I'm getting stuck doing all of this like content creation and reaching out to people and all this stuff and so this is honestly exactly what he needs it allows especially if it can integrate chiropractor yeah and let the system be the content creator right exactly yeah we're beyond the point to where there's no longer a choice everybody that wants to have any kind of traffic whatsoever is going to have to be creating content you're gonna have to be doing all the stuff that you really didn't have to do 20 years ago and probably don't wanna do now but it's just inevitable I mean we see it too like we organic posts are almost non existent these days getting any traffic if you're not paying for the traffic coming to you and to keep on top of everything and and feeding the algorithms constant content so that it doesn't put you to the back burner and all this stuff it's just almost too much to to deal with especially for people like us that like to do things as solo entrepreneurs or small teams or anything like that it's just a lot to to deal with and that's why I think the AI is so crucial because like Zach's been saying I mean you can create your own team of people and another thing in our in as we've started with game AI two years ago that was where we really built the platform the AI platform that we're still continuing to use and build off of because the foundation is amazing it allows for us to iterate different things off of it but one of the things that game was all about was making the the communication with AI super easy for people that didn't know what they were doing so we've continued that and that's continued to be one of our backbone of our companies and so all of the AIs that you're communicating with inside Flow Orchestra are all highly trained assistants on the back end there you're not just talking to a fresh chat GPT or anything like that like even the general assistant that you're using has been properly trained to provide better responses than just the general BS crap that everybody's gonna get when they go to chat G P and say write me a blog post yeah yeah so then when we're talking about you can have your own team and we've got a blog post writer we have a an editorial writer all these all these assistants they're all specially trained on their own to produce professional quality content not just like we didn't just say act as an editorial writer and say go you know like we have pages of training documents that we've trained these assistants on so every step of the way you're getting high quality interactions within the the flow and if you even need to take it a step further if the custom assistance didn't necessarily have exactly what you needed that's why we also built the ability for the user to create their own custom assistance at any point so you can easily create custom assistance with just a few fields we set it up again to make it very user friendly anyone can make an assistant within seconds again um so if you needed to train it for specifically your brand voice you know the the knowledge of your company anything like that you could do that and then share it with other people on your team so we've got it set up where you can go in and have an account as a team multiple seats so Brady and I can share a team I can build a workflow at the same time he can see my workflow um if he needs to go in then behind me and edit it after I'm done he can do so um if I've created a custom assistant to use specifically for Flow Orchestra and our brand Brady now has access to use that same custom assistant cause he's on my team so that's the great part is you can build these things as a team as well and share them amongst the different seats so everyone on that team maintains consistency is using the same tone the same logic the same assistance making sure that obviously every day that you know this thing is operating it's not changing depending on who's operating it it's saying yeah very strict to your brand and the tone that you want it to to convey and regardless of who's operating it that's what it will do so something I'm always curious about is with any AI project is the user interface and user experience so as far as like the the editing of flows goes is it like a node based experience or is it more like a like a text editor or form it's more like it's not Dragon Drop I started to go that route it's so annoying it is it is it's impossible to not break stuff every single time so it's more set up like a um list of steps like a stack is what it is what it is and you can move them up and down however you want got it okay and the UI is we will continue to iterate to try to improve it because it's since I'm building everything everything makes sense to me and then I'll I'll give it to Zach and he'll be like how do I start this and I'm like what do you mean how do you start it so we kind of have to go back and forth on you know I just assume people are gonna know exactly what I was thinking when I built this and that's not always the case but I think that you know the the more complexity and features and functionality that you add into an app the more difficult it is to maintain a clean user friendly UI so that's something that we will always continue to work on but I mean I think yeah and I it's pretty pretty good at the moment I love asking that question because I don't think that UI has been solved for AI apps yet at all I agree never definitely not like we have not reached the the final form of them and I don't know what it's gonna be exactly but I love seeing seeing what people come up with no I agree completely I just people approach it yeah I've I agree that like there's there's something that's gonna look completely different than what we're used to and that's gonna be you know what I agree with you I think that like there needs to be a complete redesign like we're not even capable of thinking of what the good the perfect UI for AI stuff is yet and somebody's gonna figure it out but it's very interesting to think about it's almost like a philosophical right yeah no exactly that's that's that's the point that I was gonna make next is I was gonna say I was gonna be like alright I'm gonna get real contentious here for a second ha ha ha and make the point that um something that people underrate is the degree to which like the the user interface shapes their um understanding of the AI I think and and I think that we're going to find more and more that essentially the user interface is more or less like the the embodiment of the AI and I think that when people start thinking about it that way we'll see design philosophies radically shift rather than being you know I feel like currently people think of it as like you know the user interface is there for at least in the most common you know chat implementations of it it's like hey the chat is you know a joint message board for the AI and you to post to rather than the chat being a interface that is the AI anyways I've got some ideas about that further down the line that I'm excited to talk about but I just had to I had to get off that that quick yeah no I think that's cool because like and that's why and and that's one of the reasons um I mean I personally just like love working with Brady in general is because he's got the he's Salesforce background he's ex salesforce whatever architect guy and so he knows I mean he can develop anything really and then I step in and I'm my my background is marketing and digital experiences and e commerce and U I U x so um he we both have a different perspective and different point of view on how we view things Brady's the developer he hands it to me I make sure that as a business user it's easily going to be able to be used by by a normal user and so and then we also have you know we we tend to have other people as well give us input we we thrive off feedback you know we may give it to um you know an older demo just to make sure that it's uh you know it's easy even in in that demographic so you know we use our parents relatives all this stuff so we get we get all sorts of point of views and so we're really working towards making it that U X U I experience as easy as possible and I think that when comparing even what we did with game AI which was solely for beginners we built that like that was the main aspect of it um this I feel is even it contains everything game AI does plus 1,000 other items and it's 10 times easier yeah we haven't even mentioned it but obviously flow has normal chat and normal image generation just like chat G P and anything else like that's we felt like at this point in time it's you may as well like the minimum yeah that's the minimum requirement for an AI app if you're gonna do anything else you need to at least have the chat and stuff too so yeah and we such an easy integration at this point we hope to envision it's kind of like the a flow orchestra becomes people's like a you know dashboard main dashboard or or just um like their their war room kind of thing or they can just essentially run their whole business from the Flow Orchestra platform and can stay in it and they know they can see their analytics they can run their flows they can see the performance they can see where the posts are going they can you know all that stuff so that's that's where we're going where you know you could essentially automate your business and run everything you need from the Flow Orchestra platform and that's where we're headed Awesome Jake you're muted thank you um have you thought about with cause I saw this article about AI consulting and how it's gonna be going crazy obviously let's say an AI consultant was like okay I'm gonna use flow as my base I'm gonna go in would there be a user where he like a super user right where he can set up 100 clients underneath them and they have a username does that make sense I'm trying to envision like how this could be used in that realm yes we we have built thus far we've built a couple packages that have multiple seats which function like you're saying but we have the whole just like every other app you know if if you're if you wanna talk about enterprise accounts and everything contact us to where we would we would absolutely accommodate something like that but we do have it set up now where I think like starting with the second or 3rd packages they include multiple seats and then when you have a team like that that has multiple seats then you get to share credits and you get to share some of the upgraded chat bots and stuff that that you might purchase as as the the package holder and everything like that but yes we are very much want to be set up to where either you can work with your team or you can do something like that like an agency yeah for sure yeah and you could and if you were a consultant of that kind yes you could um because we have the ability you can separate it by teams right so if you are working on one brand you could have essentially the drop downs of all your brands if you are a consultant and say you know today I'm working with XYZ company and you could build flows for each individual brand as a consultant and so you know that this brand has specific process you build it one time you're done right so each and every time that client comes back you simply go up to your teams you find that client again and you run the flow um and you know you could do that and you could iterate that it's exciting infinitely yeah yeah for sure like you as the the the top level if you were running it in like an agency scheme like that you would be able to create the flow once and you could literally use it for every different brand that you wanted to and you could go in and change the the one identifier like this is for whatever company or whatever but you would be able to you wouldn't even have to create it over and over again for each specific brand you just have it once in your account and you would be able to run it for whoever you wanted so yeah you could I mean you it gives you the ability to scale um insanely fast as an individual or as a small team yeah so I uh be be before we started recording you guys mentioned that you have a demo video of it I'd love to see it feels like this is might be a good time to try it out see if the games are working today on Riverside put it to the test let me try and share Jake's probably caught off camera to die of a coughing attack okay you ready to try this yeah let's give it a shot okay and there's no sound so this is the dashboard that we first came into and these are the pre made flows and this is gonna go fast I'm gonna try and talk fast but this was like a blog post generator one of the simple premade flows and you can see that it has you go in the first step you add your blog topic and you can see we have placeholders so you can reference the outputs of previous steps yeah and then it will go through and like I was saying earlier create the outline create the blog post generate the image prompt create the featured image and you can see you can sit here and and watch the steps come back if you want you don't have to yeah it's gonna come back anyway but it will come back one by one and then at the end you'll have all of the uh all the content all the images so there's the the final blog post it created the outline first and then I think it did a preview then there's the blood image prompt created there was the image okay so now we're going back to the chat so this is the um the regular chat that we were just talking about where you can just chat back and forth with whatever assistant you want and the generate images just like that as well so you have your chat history what not then here we have prompt stacks to where you can create multiple stacks and this is like the light version of flows so you can do this really real quickly and it doesn't have all of the uh the power features like being able to do conditional stuff and save to this and that this is kind of like these are literal legit prompt stacks that that's all that's all we're doing with these prompt stacks you can you can um choose a specific assistant for each step and you can save your prompt stacks you can share your prompt stacks or you can just run at once if you only needed it the one time but it allows you to do these repetitive tasks that are not quite like on the level of needing to create an ebook with a flow or whatever it's just a simple more simple stacks like this so you can see it runs all the stacks in order or all the prompts in order comes back with all of your answers you can save your prompt stacks that's what that was showing and then we'll go into this is the marketplace so we have a whole bunch of different specialized assistants that you can add to your team if you want some of them are free some of them cost money some of them are teams and themselves this is an area where we will continue to add to just so that we make sure that we have assistance that hit the specifics of anybody that might come in there we have all the different sea sweet people we have different specialists we have some stuff that's like very specific to a certain tool action here's the image generation you see you have a bunch of different styles you can use you can change the size you want or whatever it keeps all track of all of your previously generated images download it copy it whatever you want to do with it I think that tried to throw something together that wasn't like ridiculously long and boring so we only can only included a very brief overview of each little yeah yeah that's perfect I'll give you a sense of what we're doing at least I'd be curious can a prompt stack be like subsumed into a flow so could you like say like you know you create like a blog post prompt stack and you're like hey this is way better than you know the blog post writer prompt flow that I have I wanna replace steps 2 through 5 with my with this stack is that possible you know that feature is not built but it's extremely possible and wouldn't take much to do and it's a very good idea so I probably am gonna steal that from you so yeah in the fight for you a little bit of credit I was gonna say just just hide my name in the Htm L somewhere exactly happy yeah exactly called the Spencer function yeah but that's exactly like that's exactly where we are right now like we yeah these are the things that from you know real people real users that we need to to hear living in it for the last year of building it I am just so used to it being exactly exactly I know exactly every piece of it oh yeah I'm sure so when is this launch like what's the timeline here we want to start getting people in people outside of our like personal relation so not hugely public but like people we can at least know that we will value their feedback or that some beta users yeah exactly we we we definitely want to get like a good intimate beta group to go through it because you know a lot of feedback I mean feedback is great don't get me wrong but there is feedback that's more valuable than other feedback so we want to like start with that feedback the the the feedback that's gonna be most fruitful for us before we push it out to a wider audience and and hopefully in that incremental iterative way we will prevent the wider crowd from having so much stuff to complain about or whatever uh huh and then we can focus on some of the stuff that like outcast outlier cases where somebody who is barely have ever turned on a computer and winds up on our app you know they're gonna have feedback that most people aren't gonna have but we need to see that feedback but obviously those people would not be able to provide valuable feedback on anything more complex because they are at this this different level so we'll get through all the testing to everybody to get the feedback yeah yeah but we're kind of doing it in a managed way yeah and so right now we've got a wait list happening and so right now we've got flow orchestra.com opened up and so if you visited there you could go right now and start reviewing the information and learning more about the platform you can also sign up to join the waitlist those people will get first access to the platform when we we get to that point we also know that you know that person will those people will probably you know receive extra perks for being on the waitlist and things like that um we do highly encourage you do that um this something you know would be valuable to you if you're a solo entrepreneur and aspiring content creator um you've got a business idea but the thought of content creation um yeah and needing to be consistent in that has held you back this is kind of you know your ticket to to no longer having that excuse I really so we're excited and so if you want first access try it out or even you know want to provide the feedback or we could potentially even help you you know out of the gate you know a little bit more a hand holding if you if needed I join the wait list and those people will obviously get you know first treatment best treatment yeah first access all that stuff so um so yeah and and very much have the potential opportunity to influenced just like the suggestion you just made I think that would that's cool you know if I were to be a first tester and be like oh yeah I'm the one that suggested that feature that's pretty cool and we've yeah we've got a few companies already that we've talked to that are interested in piloting with us so we'll be you know getting feedback from both a more from a team perspective as well as an individual user perspective so we'll hopefully have feedback all around but we do have a couple brands that will be using us right out of the gate so we're very excited for to do that as well wow sounds like it's been a wild ride yeah very it is I poor Zach I am very much I get very interested in things very often so Zach has to shield me from like if I see a commercial that's like build a build your own electronic board game like my instinct is that's what I'm doing for the day like done and done so I have to keep I have to make Zach keep me on track cause I will just you know there would be ridiculous features in every app cause it would be whatever caught my eye I love it I I just had one thought real quick with the uh you know as we're talking about features I my backgrounds in accounting and so much of accounting right is like okay every month run the financial statements pull these ratios and compare it against these companies right not content creation but still repetitive yes do you envision that like data analysis potentially could be part of this yeah for sure I think that the first place we'll see that was kind of like what Zach handed to earlier with like marketing analytics data and stuff like that we're it's getting better and better but we're still a little hamstrung by what AI can do with numbers like it's not the best in calculation right right when we're talking about something like financial numbers or accounting records and stuff like that that's not something that you can be like well it's right 97% of the time kind of yeah yeah mostly there yeah so we definitely want to be able to bring in you know a lot of people to upload their their spreadsheet with their data or pull it from whatever and and chat with it or predict with it or whatever but we definitely wanna make sure that we're providing good accurate data because yeah for sure 1 1 screw up one bad thing about yeah all of it then it's it's it's just a failure so we have to be very careful yeah and in that's in the same realm I was talking to a friend who is in sales insurance sales the other night and we were walking through talking about flow and kind of seeing how his processes could potentially be helped by a flow and so we know that data is obviously essential and in everything we do so that's part of why the next iteration is connecting to other channels because he as an as a salesperson uses a air table as an example he's got all this data and air table um which if you don't know is a basically a glorified Excel sheet and and so he manually will go through you know his air table sheets and say you know this is a good prospect he's got his own you know process that he has in determining who he needs to reach out to but being able to feed his data into our system our system could then take his processes and identify it for him say hey you know this a B C d the client or who we should go after according to the data that's in your air table maybe the next step for him then is knowing that these are the people you need to go after okay now we want to create sales content to target those specific sales customers so and then that content would be based off of the data that's being fed so different use case but using data almost similarly you know an accounting data would be used to get insights yeah he's gonna have his sales data to also be producing these insights that then will then morph and do something else as well so we know that connecting that data and the and the onset is super important and so again that's why that's why getting the channels hooked up is gonna be super crucial well I'm excited to see it I think I'm already on the list if not I'll uh sign up twice I'll make sure I'm in there and show it to my mother in law yeah good yeah seriously my brother I'm gonna get him in there for sure absolutely yeah and this is just the beginning like it's the platform is built so now it's just a matter of taking the time and building out the different connections to it like the data and everything like that um yeah that's that's the easier part it just takes time so you know we we envision making as as many of these connections as possible like Zach said we wanted to be able to pretty much do everything that you need to do and we'll get there but we we have to make sure that the the footing is solid and yeah it's first round of testing and launch will it's basically the the footing launch so once we get yeah and if you're if you're on the wait list I mean shoot send us send us an email let us know kind of what channels you use connections you need and uh that's kind of a learning process that we're doing now obviously we've got we're gonna making tons of of integrations across the board but um you know if you wanna go ahead and start that conversation with us for we want to know that kind of stuff so as we build out um we can make sure that the first things we're building are the things that will immediately provide value to you out of the gate so again we're we're here to kind of make we'll drop links and information for sure absolutely yeah that's awesome we appreciate you guys having us on here yeah thank you yeah of course you know I'll go ahead Spence I was gonna I was gonna say something that I am really liking about the guests that all the guests that we brought back on for a second episode is everyone just is it continues to reach higher and higher and I love yeah I love that it's inspiring and uh makes me even more optimistic for the future like we haven't had a single guest who's like yeah I gave up on that and like I'm doing an AI girlfriend now you know that makes me so happy yeah I know truly and it's amazing we've had guests on I mean similar to your story where it's like yeah we started with X whatever happened we had one guy on who started a language translation idea and Google came in and was like actually we have that language now and his idea was gone he just overnight he was just like pivot I'll do I'll do this other things now I have this baseline knowledge and it's just this attitude of like work and get this together and it's it's for tariff scheduling yes yeah and he pivoted to this before the election so like crush that timing yeah so if Trump goes ahead with his tariffs like we know one guy who will be making money off of it yeah we're gonna be honestly fortunate timing there yeah truly but yeah he's awesome you guys are awesome thank you for coming yeah thanks for sticking with it and we're very excited to see flow and where it goes and just I think what you've touched on I guess I want to emphasize cause I think it's the biggest part of AI that is meaningful to me is the time it truly it's the ultimate commodity right like every second it's gone right like you never get it back and so having this flow built out allows you to really I mean you can do with it what you will but the idea is you have that option now right like you don't have to you're not chained to these tasks you can say automate that now I'm gonna have time in the morning from 8 to 9 to be with my baby before it goes down for a nap that's why I'm thinking we have a Newborn baby and I'm like this sounds so awesome where you can instead of waking up get this content created do this x y Z it's like okay that's all automated I have some time and then maybe use the time throughout the day for other things but like yeah so powerful absolutely so thanks for making it a reality it really is it's awesome yeah I'm I'm glad that yeah that's that was definitely the the thought behind it and almost like I said it forget it kind of thing you could basically have full businesses of of certain types running completely untouched just on their own just through flows and and automations and everything like that so yeah I I think it like you you say you can't buy time right but like in this instance you kind of can it's like the first time you kind of can kind of can you're selling time it's it's cool yeah yeah you guys are great we'll drop links to flow and all the the socials if people wanna follow you speaking of that on social media what's the best best platforms right now yeah right now we are on Twitter Facebook Instagram and LinkedIn for Twitter it's just at flow Orchestra and then same likewise for things flow underscore Orchestra for Facebook um and but yeah Flow Orchestra com is the website we've got everything all the details up there and that's kind of the home base so if you want to get information Flow Orchestra com has everything you need and again that's where the wait list is also but yeah please connect with us on socials we're gonna be sharing all updates keeping everyone privy we also kind of share um a lot of really good prompts and insights in the a I world and you know obviously we're connected with you guys and you guys share awesome information too so um so yeah we we would appreciate the connection great awesome thanks for coming on guys absolutely thank you so much guys thank you guys till next time alright absolutely